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Catholic misinformation

Postby mllevaleur » 23 Nov 2009 12:52 pm

Ugh, I get so tired of the typical stuff said about the inquisition or the crusades or the horrible nebulous things everyone knows the Catholic Church did because they were all 100% corrupt, and we know it's true because it has been repeated often enough, nevermind the facts. :x

This is all from a new-ish poster on the ex board.

I believe any religion believing they are the true way, and have a duty to convert as many as possible, are potentially dangerous. Especially in authoritarian societies. You are right about the crusades, etc. They completely ignored the teachings of Jesus. I am glad for Luther and the protestant rebellion, and eventual democracy and human rights. Otherwise we might still have crusades and inquisitions.


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But how about the inquisitions, and other atrocities? They systematically set out to destroy Paganism (any religion other than their version of Christianity) and they almost accomplished it. Their own Catholic Encyclopedia admits this. Thousands or more were killed in the process. Centuries later they reportedly killed the first two people trying to get the New Testament out to the general public.
They also got rid of Christian writing that didn't agree with them. These are the reasons I don't trust the N.T. to be an accurate representation of Jesus and his movement.


Huh?? #-o

I didn't look at the book you mention, but did look at catholic and non catholic resources while doing my study. Consulted the Catholic Encyclopedia many times. It was very interesting to see the spin Catholics can put on their info. I even dug into some Vatican info on some original official documents. After comparing the different sides of issues, came down on the side of non-Catholic historians.


Which non-Catholic historians? Ohhh, you mean the ANTI-Catholic ones, riiiiight. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Catholic misinformation

Postby Joseph the Worker » 23 Nov 2009 2:19 pm

Rediculous...It's even worse to see this kind of stuff from the media. CNN said that the Pope

rules the Catholic Church from his throne in Rome


in an article about how the Anglican Church is mad at us.
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Re: Catholic misinformation

Postby la bella vita » 23 Nov 2009 3:10 pm

There are definitely a few newer posters on the ex board that will criticize the CoC for being closed minded and intolerant in one sentence and then basically call anyone who disagrees with their point stupid in the next line (particularly Catholics). It's really annoying.
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Re: Catholic misinformation

Postby Joseph the Worker » 23 Nov 2009 3:17 pm

You get used to it after a while. I'm so used to being criticized for being Catholic it doesn't even bother me. Funny thing is I was always embarrassed to share my faith when I was in the CoC (when no one even knew what it was) but now I'm not and actually suffer persecution for it (albeit I only get light verbal abuse :) ))
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Re: Catholic misinformation

Postby mllevaleur » 23 Nov 2009 4:47 pm

Joseph the Worker wrote:Rediculous...It's even worse to see this kind of stuff from the media. CNN said that the Pope

rules the Catholic Church from his throne in Rome


in an article about how the Anglican Church is mad at us.


Because some traditional anglicans asked to be part of the Church and he said ok? :roll: Puh-leeze.
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Re: Catholic misinformation

Postby Marcus » 23 Nov 2009 7:03 pm

that's why I stay away from the ex board. But thank you Stephanie for bother with me. Had you chosen to blow me off I might not be back home.
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Re: Catholic misinformation

Postby Joseph the Worker » 23 Nov 2009 10:11 pm

Another one from CNN! And again their HEADLINE ON THE WEBSITE!
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/23/ ... index.html

Notice that they quote a Fr. Reese:

Other Catholics questioned Tobin's stance.

"The simple fact is that most bishops don't want to deny communion to politicians, and we know for a fact that Pope John Paul II gave communion to pro-choice Italian politicians," said the Rev. Thomas Reese, a senior fellow at the Woodstock Theological Center at Georgetown University. "So the question is, is Bishop Tobin more Catholic than the pope on this?"


So I decided to look up Father Reese:

Fr. Reese resigned after seven years as the editor of America due to pressure from the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Over a period of five years, the congregation objected to various editorial decisions made by Reese concerning certain issues addressed in the magazine, notably priestly celibacy and the ordination of women. Following his resignation, Reese spent a year-long sabbatical at Santa Clara University before being named a fellow at the Woodstock Theological Center in Washington, D.C.
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Re: Catholic misinformation

Postby mllevaleur » 24 Nov 2009 1:17 am

Marcus wrote:that's why I stay away from the ex board. But thank you Stephanie for bother with me. Had you chosen to blow me off I might not be back home.


Honestly, statements like that are pretty rare there nowadays. :-) That's why these stuck out so much, lol!

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Re: Catholic misinformation

Postby mllevaleur » 24 Nov 2009 1:18 am

Yep, the name Fr. Reese rings a bell for just those reasons.

Blech. :roll:
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Re: Catholic misinformation

Postby SirFlea » 24 Nov 2009 7:24 pm

I was rather pleased to hear of a Catholic bishop standing up to a pro-choice politician. However, when I read about events online, it said bishop's office said he hadn't asked Kennedy to stop taking the eucharist. I wish someone would stand up to our pro-choice governor. :(

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Re: Catholic misinformation

Postby prairie » 24 Nov 2009 10:07 pm

I'm proud of our Archbishop Joseph Naumann. He has publicly asked Gov. Sebelius to stop receiving communion.

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Re: Catholic misinformation

Postby Joseph the Worker » 25 Nov 2009 4:49 am

On a good note, I received an awesome letter from my representative thanking me for writing him about the Stupak amendment to the health care bill and informing me (which I verified) that he not only voted for it but tried to convince Nancy Pelosi that it was idiotic for her to fight it (and he is a baptist, which he clearly told me in his letter.) He thanked the USCCB for standing up for life and for their calls to his office in his letter to me. I really never liked him, but if I still live here next year I'm going to have to give him my vote.
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Re: Catholic misinformation

Postby SirFlea » 28 Nov 2009 11:29 am

prairie wrote:I'm proud of our Archbishop Joseph Naumann. He has publicly asked Gov. Sebelius to stop receiving communion.
I glad to hear that about a bishop standing up to a pro-choice politician.

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Re: Catholic misinformation

Postby BH » 29 Nov 2009 9:55 pm

prairie wrote:I'm proud of our Archbishop Joseph Naumann. He has publicly asked Gov. Sebelius to stop receiving communion.



I am not Christian much less Catholic, but from what I have read of the Bible as well as church traditions that is how it should be. I have a great deal of respect for this Mr. Cardinal Naumann. If a politician isn't going to endorse and enforce his/her church's teachings on what is right and wrong then they do not need to be recognized as a member of that church.

Kudos Cardinal Naumann.

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Re: Catholic misinformation

Postby Joseph the Worker » 30 Nov 2009 12:12 am

They also asked Ted Kennedy's Son not to take the Eucharist last week.
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